Compagnie Virtuelle avec formation

kbumbaz · [↑]

Bonjour,

Est ce que certains d'entre vous aurez une recommandation qd aux Compagnie Virtuelle faisant un peu de formation au pilotage sur lignes commerciales ?

Merci a vous.

bye bye et bonne apres midi !

Prodiax · [↑]

Salut,

Je ne connais pas suffisamment les diverses écoles. Mais le mieux selon moi est de faire ta formation toi-même et en posant tes questions ici. Comme il n'y a pas de normes ou d'approbation des écoles virtuelles, tu ne sais pas si la matière que t'enseigne ces écoles est bonne.
Certaines s'ouvrent un peu trop vite avec des instructeurs un peu jeunes et je doute que leur expérience aéronautique soit suffisante.
Inscris-toi dans une école avec un minimum d'ancienneté et de renommée. Un bon exemple pour les hélicos : Helicoptere-avis

Le mieux notre bon vieux Rod Machado

Dernière modification par Prodiax (07-04-2010 17:27:43)

kbumbaz · [↑]

Salut Prodiax,

Merci pour ton conseil !

Bye

cyriln · [↑]

Il me semble qu'il y a de la formation chez :
Cyrberavia
Britair (formation sur ATR et F100)
Atlantic Sky.

Cordialement

kbumbaz · [↑]

Merci pour tes info cyriln.

Je me permet juste de preciser que c'est une formation pour voler en reseau sur IVAO, plus que pour des formations pousses ds un simulateur ou ce genre de choes hein (cf britair)

FSX reste un plaisir de diletente !

bye

Prodiax · [↑]

Si c'est pour te former à voler sur IVAO, c'est sans aucun doute la soirée débutant sur la division polynésienne d'IVAO qu'il te faut. Ca se passe tous les vendredis soir.

Des gars sympathiques, pédagogues, sans prise de tête avec beaucoup de talent.

En général il y a un topic créé chaque semaine dans la section "vol en réseau" pour ne pas l'oublier. Le dernier en date : http://www.pilote-virtuel.com/viewtopic.php?id=17256

kbumbaz · [↑]

Ouep super je suis deja maqué avec eux !
Ca fais quelques semaines que je tourne et j'aimerai faire des vols VFR un peu plus pousses et IFR car je ne connais pas. J'ai trouve des tuto donc je continue mes recherches en l'occurence ici.

Je vais voir directement avec eu un soir !

Dernière modification par kbumbaz (12-04-2010 15:51:59)

cyriln · [↑]

Ouaip, je ne peux que t'encourager à participer le plus souvent possible à ce type de soirée, l'ambiance y est excellente.

Après rien ne t'empêche de faire quelques tour de piste un soir sur Nantes ou Bordeaux ou autres, si il y a du monde cela permet :
De se familiariser au traffic
D'entendre du traffic (car sur ivao, on apprend aussi en écoutant).
De se familiariser avec la phraséo.

Sinon ce mettre en observateur un soir aussi sur LFPG, pour juste entendre la fréquence, ça aide aussi.

Cordialement

Cyril

kbumbaz · [↑]

Merci de tes conseils ! c'est gentil

bye bye

fav025 · [↑]

Bonjour

Pour apprendre l'IFR sous des cieux fascinants et capricieux..

http://www.siberiavirtual.fr/

fav025

airalgerievirtual · [↑]

Nous somme la AIR ALGERIE vous offre la chance de venir avec de vrai instructeur de metier

voila le programme

AIR ALGERIE VIRTUAL

VATSIM Pilot Training Program
Document Contact: Kyle Ramsey
k.ramsey@vatsim.net
Skype and AIM : GetStill

Contents:

1. Introduction and considerations for delivering content for VATSIM Pilot Ratings
2. VATSIM Pilot (P1) Ratings Guidelines for ATO’s
3. ATO Beta tester Considerations
4. VATSIM Pilot (P1) Criteria
5. VATSIM ATO Certification Requirements for beta testing
6. VATGOV14 Office and ATO Pilot Rating Webspace Specifications

Thanks to the help provided by the people below in creating the VATSIM Pilot Rating Program to this stage. The conversations have been tough but they have driven us to a place where VATSIM will be able to offer pilot ratings to interested pilots that is representative of their skills as well as open a lot of space for training providers to break new ground in how they deliver ratings and in what languages these ratings can be given; this is good for pilots, good for training organizations, and good for VATSIM. I specifically want to thank Alex Bailey who during his time assisting me was a wonderful driving force to meet milestones and press for ever more creative solutions.

Pilot Ratings Design Team Members

Mike Bevington – The original architect of VATSIM Pilot Training
Keith Smith – Advanced the game in defining the ATO system

Introduction

This rating program has several goals. First and foremost it is designed to promote activity to train VATSIM pilots at all stages of experience using third party resources qualified and monitored by VATSIM’s VATGOV14, VP Pilot Training’s office. The list of tasks to be done to qualify for a VATSIM pilot rating are detailed by VATSIM but the ATO’s (Authorized Training Organizations) are given a lot of freedom to be creative and selective in how they deliver ratings. Some VAs may only choose to do their own internal pilots while other VAs may ‘outsource’ their training to another VA or be the source for other VAs. Some will specialize in veteran VATSIM member conversions or will focus on the more advanced ratings and not offer P1 at all. We will be interested to see what ATOs can teach us about how to train pilots and we wish to encourage them to employ creative means to deliver the training, get outside the box, and use creativity to be your product differentiator and what makes your ATO special and different.

The program is also hoped to provide pilots with recognition for having achieved demonstrated success in online flying at several levels. By maintaining a consistent worldwide standard for each rating, the ATO’s through adherence to those standards ensure the ratings given reflect the capabilities of the pilot and become a sign of achievement and professionalism that both new and experienced pilots will desire to display. We recognize not all pilots will have a desire to gain any ratings through ATOs regardless of their experience and there is no other path to the ratings except through an ATO approved program. Having said that we hope several ATOs will specialize in delivering an expedited process for veteran pilots to gain their ratings without undue training they don’t need yet they are able to demonstrate their competence and challenge the coursework, gaining their rating quickly.

Lastly this is designed to be global in scope while local in impact. We encourage ATOs to operate to their audience. A Russian ATO should deliver their materials in Russian and if they fly mostly in Russia, the rules they cover should be Russian. A global VA may teach several area’s rules that they fly, or even have regional sensitivities built in, i.e., their US based pilots get an FAA treatment while their Canadian based pilots get Nav Canada focused materials, both producing the exact same rating. The VSOAs have both a regional focus as well as military flight profiles home and abroad for them to learn, which also fits within the VATSIM Pilot Ratings program. The point is many organizations with existing training departments can tailor their offering for VATSIM Pilot Ratings to their desired customer base and embed VATSIM requirements into existing or new programs to deliver content the ATO thinks adds value while also allowing ATO’s to issue VATSIM Pilot Ratings in addition to their own training schemes.

VATSIM Pilot (P1) Rating Introduction for ATOs

The key to understanding how to deliver the P1 rating is to understand the level of comprehension. This is not designed to make these pilots masters, but instead to introduce them to VATSIM and online flying. The material should not attempt to teach them how to fly the airplane, how to navigate, how to do in depth flight planning. It should show them the pieces of the puzzle and encourage them to continue to expand their knowledge through study and practice.

In particular, one will find in the list below verbiage that helps the ATO understand the level of instructions to be given and the benchmarks that must be met by the student. In P1 much of the language is, for example, “… the student should receive instruction in how to do X, Y, and Z.” This means the ATO shall provide instruction in any format negotiated between the ATO and VATSIM during ATO qualification. It does not give any benchmark for the student other than having sat through the instruction. In other places there exists a student standard, such as “… the student should be able to set up the visual models for their pilot client.” In this case the ATO will have to ascertain if the student has the models set up correctly, perhaps describing another aircraft they see or a screen shot on a ramp with other VATSIM aircraft in correct models.

Formats are encouraged to be both flexible and aimed at the appropriate audience; for a program tailored to experienced VATSIM members who just need an oral Q&A or a written exam format perhaps no material other than an outline for the oral or written would be needed yet for a newbie pilot and VATSIM member more extensive written, video, or person to person type formats may be more appropriate.

In those places where the below states “… the student should be shown (or, “given instruction….) ….”, if the student can show the ATO they know this topic already, evidence that they do can replace them being shown by the ATO. In other words if the student can explain the details to the instructor there is no need for the instructor to explain it to the student.

To the greatest extent possible all flight training operations should take place on the VATSIM network. Instructor-student role playing can also be used when ATC services are not available in order to conduct a lesson or practical examination.

Never tell when you can ask.
Never ask when you can show.
Never show when you can be shown.

VATSIM P1 Rating Criteria for VATSIM Pilot Rating

1 Download and install essential software
1.1 Your Sim – MSFS, XPlane
1.2 Pilot Clients – SB, FSInn
1.3 To find ATC – Wazzaup, Servinfo, VATSpy, VATSIM Stats
1.4 Interpreting This Requirement
1.4.1 The student should be able to download one of the accepted pilot clients, get it set up, and connect successfully to the VATSIM network.
1.4.2 The student should be able to set up the files to create visual models of other pilot’s aircraft.
1.4.3 The student should be able to use at least one of the common tools to locate ATC who are online in their area of operation and when they are in an active controller’s airspace or not.

2 Flight Plans
2.1 Fill in the appropriate boxes
2.2 Find acceptable routes
2.3 Useful Newbie Comments
2.4 Interpreting This Requirement
2.4.1 The student should be able to fill out the VATSIM Flight Plan form and understand what is expected and typical in each box.
2.4.2 The student should be able to find an appropriate route, not GPS Direct, but may include VORs or Preferred Routes from ATC web sites
2.4.3 The student should know appropriate comments to add to their flight plan to help ATC help them, comments common to newbie flight plans.

3 Weather
3.1 Where to find it, why VATSIM weather might be different than your weather and different from sim to sim as it renders differently in each PC.
3.2 IMC vs VMC
3.3 Runway selection
3.4 Interpreting This Requirement
3.4.1 The student should be shown where to find local weather information relative to that weather the VATSIM ATC will be reporting within their area of operation.
3.4.2 The student should be able to determine if the airport(s) he/she will be flying to or from is under IMC or VMC conditions to anticipate the services available.
3.4.3 The student should be instructed on how to handle a situation where they wish to fly in conditions different than what VATSIM is reporting and how to handle the communications and coordination with VATSIM ATC, i.e., if the airport is IMC and the pilot’s sim is VMC.
3.4.4 The student should be able to select the appropriate runway to use relative to the prevailing winds as reported on the VATSIM network.

4 Facility web sites
4.1 Basics, information for pilots, contacts
4.2 Interpreting This Requirement
4.2.1 The student should be shown how to find local ATC facility web sites and locate the Information for Pilots section(s) and their normal contents (maps, charts, procedures, Preferred Routes) and how to contact local leadership for help if needed.

5 Connecting to the network
5.1 Where to connect
5.2 Transponders (STBY vs Mode C)
5.3 Interpreting This Requirement
5.3.1 The student should be able to explain and understand the safe places to connect to the VATSIM network.
5.3.2 The student should be able to use their transponder built into their pilot client and understand the STBY and Mode C functions and when each should be used. The student should understand what the transponder code is, where they get it (with or without ATC), and how to enter it into their transponder.

6 Maps and Charts – where to find them and basic descriptions
6.1 Airport diagram
6.2 VFR sectionals
6.3 Lo/Hi Enroute
6.4 Terminal Charts
6.5 IAPs
6.6 Interpreting This Requirement
6.6.1 The student should be shown where to locate these charts and be able to basically describe each one at a high level. It is not intended that the student be able to use or interpret these charts yet, just know that they exist and where to find them for their area of operations. The self-learners will figure out what to do with this information.

7 Contacting ATC
7.1 Clearance
7.2 Push and Start
7.3 Taxi
7.4 Takeoff
7.5 Departure
7.6 Enroute
7.7 Approach
7.8 Final
7.9 Land and taxi
7.10 Park and shutdown
7.11 Emergencies
7.12 Interpreting This Requirement
7.12.1 The student should be able to contact local ATC during any of the phases listed above and provide simple pilot to ATC phraseology and what to expect from ATC during each phase
7.12.2 The student should be able to handle their aircraft and hold headings, altitudes, and airspeeds as instructed by ATC.
7.12.3 The student should be instructed in acceptable emergency procedures on VATSIM, how to request them and what to do if their request is not granted. The student should know announcing a hijack or using the hijack transponder code is not to be done.
7.12.4 The student should be able to handle loss of voice.

8 Navigation basics – just introduce the equipment and map symbol, no requirement that they understand or can use them yet.
8.1 VOR
8.2 GPS
8.3 FMC
8.4 ILS
8.5 VFR out the window
8.6 Flight Plan Equipment Codes
876 Interpreting This Requirement
8.7.1 The student should be introduced to the instruments and procedures for any of the above that are applicable to their chosen aircraft (C-172’s don’t have FMS so don’t cover it). It is not expected the student will be able to program a GPS or FMC in great detail nor be able to track a VOR signal. A series of pictures and descriptions of each of these would suffice.
8.7.2 The student should understand the various flight plan equipment codes and how ATC will interpret and how ATC will provide services based on it

9 VATSIM Basics
9.1 Forums
9.2 Conflict Resolution
9.3 Supervisors (.wallop)
9.4 Getting help on and off line
9.5 Structure – Regions, Divisions, Facilities
9.6 Basic Facility Structures
9.6.1 CD
9.6.2 GND
9.6.3 TWR
9.6.4 Dep
9.6.5 CTR/Enroute
9.6.6 APP
9.6.7 Oceanic
9.6.8 FSS
9.6.9 ATM, TA, EC, FM
9.7 VATSIM Pilot’s Resource Center
9.8 Interpreting This Requirement
9.8.1 The student should be able to log into the VATSIM forums to find information and ask for help
9.8.2 The student should be introduced to VATSIM’s Conflict Resolution process and its role in enforcing VATSIM’s rules, the role of Supervisors, and how to contact a Supervisor if they need help and how to respond to a Supervisor if they are contacted.
9.8.3 The student should be given a basic understanding of VATSIM’s structure relative to regions, divisions, and local ATC as well as the basic facility types found within their area of operations that may be staffed. An organizational chart would work well for this purpose.
9.8.4 The student should be given directions on how to find the PRC and a basic outline of its contents to help students find information for themselves.

10 Good VATSIM Citizenship
10.1 COC, COR, UA
10.2 Website
10.3 Membership
10.4 VA’s, Flying Clubs, VSOA’s, Partners
10.5 Pilot Training and Ratings
10.6 ATC Training and Ratings
10.7 Interpreting This Requirement
10.7.1 The student should be shown the CoC, CoR, and UA documents and encouraged to read them
10.7.2 The student should be given a brief tour of the VATSIM web site with a focus on contacting Membership and using their ticket system to resolve email and other issues and finding pilot related resources.
10.7.3 The student should be given instruction on how VAs and flying clubs interact with VATSIM and VATSIM’s VA Partner program
10.7.4 The student should be given instruction in what activities are considered Special Operations and who may perform them. Also cover flying military aircraft online; the focus of the VSOA policy is the activity, not the airframe or callsign.

11 Communications
11.1 With ATC
11.2 With Other Pilots
11.2.1 UNICOM, text and voice
11.2.2 Private Channel
11.3 Private Messaging
11.3.1 Contact Me’s
11.4 Interpreting This Requirement
11.4.1 The student should be given instruction in how to contact ATC and how ATC might contact them, including the “Contact Me” automated message when ATC signs on.
11.4.2 The student should be given instruction on the use of UNICOM with text as mandatory and voice as an option, and also shown how to use the private channel to talk to other pilots
11.4.3 The student should be given instruction about voice ATIS including how and when to listen to it.

Remember, as an ATO you can choose to cover more than the basics above. We do not expect ATOs to ‘dumb down’ and existing or proposed program to fit these requirements. Fit them inside of the program you feel is in the best interest of your pilots and organization’s method of delivery.
VATSIM Pilot Rating Management Web Space Specifications

This should have integration with the current web site so no additional id's or passwords are needed. Control of functions and access is controlled by VATGOV14 entering approved ATO and GOV14 staff CIDs to give them their level of access needed.

Pilot ratings are, by default, P0 – No Rating, with up to P9 reserved for additional ratings. We will start with VATSIM Pilot Rating (P1) to test our systems.

We need a three-tier menu, with the functions of the lowest tier appearing for use in higher tiers.

First Tier: ATOs – first priority functions

Function 1: Pull up anyone, like stats, by CID or name and display:
• CID
• First and Last name
• Current Pilot and ATC rating and dates for each
• Division assigned
• Total Non ATC/OBS VATSIM time
Function 2: Add ratings, using a drop down (P1 to P9) and keyed by CID

Function 3: Display Their ATO information – for the ATO this person is assigned to, not others

Second Tier: GOV14 Staff (has all of the above functions)

Function 4: Can add an authorized ATO rep who is then authorized to do the above functions, by CID

Function 5: Add an ATO – this would be a whole new table to record ATO information that can be edited and displayed at this level
• ATO name
• ATO url
• Date of initial application
• Date of Initial certification as an ATO
• Space for two names and CIDs of ATO reps (this can be the source of the “allowed ATO reps” for allowing access to First Tier functions and replace/eliminate Function 4 above)
• 500 Char textbox for GOV14 admin notes (not displayed to ATO members in their display, only viewed by GOV14 staff)
• Make it able to disable the ATO instead of just deleting it so if they go out of cert for a short while we don't have to re-enter everything. Disable means their reps can't access this site and make changes
• Able to remove an ATO completely. Again, may want to just take it out of view but keep the guts there in case they come back.

Third Tier: VATGOV14 themself (one person) (All functions above)

Function 6: Able to add/remove GOV14 staff by CID
Function 7: Display GOV14 Approved staff by CID or just list them all, with email address.

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